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Monday, December 1, 2008

Lip Service

The big announcement airs today with Bam "o"nnouncing Hil as Secretary (of State). Thus, it will end the 8 years of lip service to New York residents from the Clintons about how much they cared for this great state.

It has always been Hillary first in her world and who or what can be used to her advantage. At a time when New York is at one of the deepest crisis in the state's history she had the opportunity to chair the powerful Appropriations Committee. She, along with Charlie Rangel, who is chair of the House Ways and Means, together would have been there to pump billions of dollars into New York. 

Hillary has been paying lip service to New York for 10 years, since her fictitious listening tour, so she could become Senator, then run for President and now after her failed presidential run it is onto to Secretary of State.

No wonder the first lady of Arkansas cheered the Chicago Cubs, while living in Washington and having a residence in New York. 

Good Bye!


Anonymous said...

"pumping dollars into New York" is NOT the responsible thing for a Chair to do. It rather is to lead a committee to make responsible appropriation decisions for the United States.
How can a person have supported John McCain because of his stance against pork, yet say that Clinton could've delivered, should she have taken the Chair position?
That is utter hypocracy.
Hillary Clinton will make a great Secretary of State.

Anonymous said...

Best of luck, Hillary.

New York is proud of you.

Anonymous said...

From your lips (IV) to deaf ears.

United States Senator career of Hillary Rodham Clinton being sworn in as a United States Senator by Vice President Al Gore in the Old Senate Chamber, on January 3, 2001.

First term
Upon entering the Senate, Clinton maintained a low public profile and built relationships with senators from both parties. She forged alliances with religiously inclined senators by becoming a regular participant in the Senate Prayer Breakfast.
Clinton has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002), Committee on Armed Services (since 2003),Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001), Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging. She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (since 2001).
Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders. Clinton voted for the USA Patriot Act in October 2001. In 2005, when the act was up for renewal, she worked to address some of the civil liberties concerns with it, before voting in favor of a compromise renewed act in March 2006 that gained large majority support.
Clinton strongly supported the 2001 U.S. military action in Afghanistan, saying it was a chance to combat terrorism while improving the lives of Afghan women who suffered under the Taliban government. Clinton voted in favor of the October 2002 Iraq War Resolution, which authorized United States President George W. Bush to use military force against Iraq, should such action be required to enforce a United Nations Security Council Resolution after pursuing with diplomatic efforts. (However, Clinton voted against the Levin Amendment to the Resolution, which would have required the President to conduct vigorous diplomacy at the U.N., and would have also required a separate Congressional authorization to unilaterally invade Iraq. She did vote for the Byrd Amendment to the Resolution, which would have limited the Congressional authorization to one year increments, but the only mechanism necessary for the President to renew his mandate without any Congressional oversight was to claim that the Iraq War was vital to national security each year the authorization required renewal.)

After the Iraq War began, Clinton made trips to both Iraq and Afghanistan to visit American troops stationed there. On a visit to Iraq in February 2005, Clinton noted that the insurgency had failed to disrupt the democratic elections held earlier, and that parts of the country were functioning well. Noting that war deployments were draining regular and reserve forces, she co-introduced legislation to increase the size of the regular United States Army by 80,000 soldiers to ease the strain. In late 2005, Clinton said that while immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake, Bush's pledge to stay "until the job is done" was also misguided, as it gave Iraqis "an open-ended invitation not to take care of themselves." She criticized the administration for making poor decisions in the war, but said it was more important to solve the problems in Iraq. Her stance caused frustration among those in the Democratic party who favored immediate withdrawal. Clinton supported retaining and improving health benefits for veterans, and lobbied against the closure of several military bases.
Senator Clinton voted against President Bush's two major tax cut packages, the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003. Clinton voted against both the 2005 confirmation of John G. Roberts as Chief Justice of the United States and the 2006 confirmation of Samuel Alito to the United States Supreme Court.
In 2005, Clinton called for the Federal Trade Commission to investigate how hidden sex scenes showed up in the controversial video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Along with Senators Joe Lieberman and Evan Bayh, she introduced the Family Entertainment Protection Act, intended to protect children from inappropriate content found in video games. In 2004 and 2006, Clinton voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment that sought to prohibit same-sex marriage.
Looking to establish a "progressive infrastructure" to rival that of American conservatism, Clinton played a formative role in conversations that led to the 2003 founding of former Clinton administration chief of staff John Podesta's Center for American Progress; shared aides with Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, founded in 2003; advised and nurtured the Clintons' former antagonist David Brock's Media Matters for America, created in 2004; and following the 2004 Senate elections, successfully pushed new Democratic Senate leader Harry Reid to create a Senate war room to handle daily political messaging.
Re-election campaign of 2006
Main article: United States Senate election in New York, 2006
In November 2004, Clinton announced that she would seek a second Senate term. The early frontrunner for the Republican nomination, Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro, withdrew from the contest after several months of poor campaign performance. Clinton easily won the Democratic nomination over opposition from anti-war activist Jonathan Tasini. Clinton's eventual opponents in the general election were Republican candidate John Spencer, a former mayor of Yonkers, along with several third-party candidates. Throughout the campaign, Clinton consistently led Spencer in the polls by wide margins. She won the election on November 7, 2006 with 67 percent of the vote to Spencer's 31 percent, carrying all but four of New York's sixty-two counties. Clinton spent $36 million for her re-election, more than any other candidate for Senate in the 2006 elections. She was criticized by some Democrats for spending too much in a one-sided contest, while some supporters were concerned she did not leave more funds for a potential presidential bid in 2008. In the following months she transferred $10 million of her Senate funds toward her presidential campaign.

Second term

Clinton opposed the Iraq War troop surge of 2007 and supported a February 2007 non-binding Senate resolution against it, which failed to gain cloture. In March 2007 she voted in favor of a war spending bill that required President Bush to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq within a certain deadline; it passed almost completely along party lines but was subsequently vetoed by President Bush. In May 2007 a compromise war funding bill that removed withdrawal deadlines but tied funding to progress benchmarks for the Iraqi government passed the Senate by a vote of 80-14 and would be signed by Bush; Clinton was one of those who voted against it. Clinton responded to General David Petraeus's September 2007 Report to Congress on the Situation in Iraq by saying, "I think that the reports that you provide to us really require a willing suspension of disbelief." In September 2007 she voted in favor of a Senate resolution calling on the State Department to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps "a foreign terrorist organization", which passed 76-22.
In March 2007, in response to the dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy, Clinton called on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to resign. In May and June 2007, regarding the high-profile, hotly debated comprehensive immigration reform bill known as the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007, Clinton cast a number of votes in support of the bill, which eventually failed to gain cloture.
As the financial crisis of 2007–2008 reached a peak with the liquidity crisis of September 2008, Clinton supported the proposed bailout of United States financial system, voting in favor of the $700 billion Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, saying that it represented the interests of the American people. It passed the Senate 74–25.

Her outstanding record for America and New York State, would indicate that your criticism of Sen. Clinton is capricious and prejudice.

Anonymous said...

Nice Ode to Hillary, Anon. 9:15. It's all accurate except your ridiculous assert that "she has an outstanding record for...New York."

What a load of crap!

She's accomplished virtually nothing for this state and specifically our North Country. She is a past-middle-aged rock star who has completely fooled the celebrity-obsessed voters of our region. She shows up for a few minutes at the local airport, shakes a few hands, smiles that creepy, fake bug-eyed smile, and them moves on to the next Hollywood or Washington fundraisers.

And pets like you lap it up and ask for more.

It's embarassing and you all should be ashamed of yourselves. Hillary never will be, because she (nor her husband) has no shame.

Will any of you losers ever admit that New York and its taxpayers were badly used by the Clintons and we will continue to be for the coming decades as they trot around the globe filling their bank accounts all while under the protections of the Secret Service? It will cost us untold millions, especially after the move out of Westchester and into new digs in Georgetown.

Why don't they pay for all of this garbage themselves? Oh that's right, they're royalty and were just the foolish peons paying for it all.

PCS said...

Don't worry PIV, we still have Rep. McHugh to bring in the billions.

hermit thrush said...

what an outrageous post, even by the usual standards around here. clinton was asked by president-elect obama to serve as his secretary of state. and rather than turn her back on her president and her country, hilary chose to do the patriotic thing and accept! and apparently that gives people like iv the vapors!

anon 8:53 has it spot on -- except that that iv never managed to say anything actually in support of mccain, only in opposition to obama.

and finally, for crying out loud, hilary grew up in chicago, so of course she roots for the cubs! for better or for worse (mostly the latter these days), i'll always be a bills fan no matter where i live.

Anonymous said...

note the stock market fell 600 points after the announcement....
I guess thats "change we can beleive in"

Anonymous said...

If Hillary leaves what will happen to those 100,000 jobs she has a plan to bring to NY???

Anonymous said...

Well, first off we see somebody has learned to cut and paste. Next we learn that Hillary was "asked" and it is a great honor. If she truly cared she would resign immediately so that Paterson could pick the next senator. In a world that values seniority above all, even a few days seniority in the Senate could make our next Senator have at least a chance of helping NYS. Yet Hillary refused to resign, so its not about service to her country at all and never has been. Its what level of power can Bill and Hill rise to, 'cause you have to remember they know better what is best for us.

hermit thrush said...

dear anon 8:45,
do you seriously mean to suggest it isn't an honor to be asked to serve as secretary of state?

do you seriously think hilary should have already resigned her senate seat? let's review. hilary was announced as the nominee for secretary of state yesterday. she won't be confirmed until the senate reconvenes in january. don't you think it might be a bit presumptuous for her to resign her seat before her confirmation? don't you think the right wing would savage her if she did? practically speaking, there's zero chance the senate will reject her, but she still has to show deference for the process.

Anonymous said...

Hermit trush you are wasting logic and reason when commenting here on (IV).
Because of anonymity, the same non compos mentis commenter seems to be always in attack mode. There are quite a few other blogs where people exchange views without the insults.

Anonymous said...

Well remember, Mrs Hermit. We conservatives are held to different standards than you coolaid drinkers. It's not a surprise that our postings would be deemed outrageous by you.

Just think, if she hadn't made up that story about dodging bullets while getting off the plane with her worshipping committee, she might have gone on to be elected president. That was a touchy moment in the campaign.

I didn't mind that she never did anything for NY, as I never expected her to. It was that constant lying that was hard for me to accept. But America has moved past that. As a nation, we're fine with it now. So I see no limits to her political future.

Anonymous said...

Well remember, Mrs Hermit. We conservatives are held to different standards than you coolaid drinkers. It's not a surprise that our postings would be deemed outrageous by you.

Just think, if she hadn't made up that story about dodging bullets while getting off the plane with her worshipping committee, she might have gone on to be elected president. That was a touchy moment in the campaign.

I didn't mind that she never did anything for NY, as I never expected her to. It was that constant lying that was hard for me to accept. But America has moved past that. As a nation, we're fine with it now. So I see no limits to her political future.

Anonymous said...

Why is it labeled as an attack when people ask about her specific promise of 100k jobs? I realize there are two "standards" as hermit says. Conservatives would have to explain such a promise, or breaking of same, while Dems can just skip off into the sunset. But don't be so unbalanced to label such questions as attacks. Is that one of the double standards you are speaking of, Mrs Hermit?

hermit thrush said...

dear anon 11:42-48,
forgive me if i'm mistakenly assuming you're all the same person, as well as the same new friend i made in this recent comment thread. let me begin by suggesting that if you expect other commenters to engage you, a little more politeness might be helpful. against my better judgment, perhaps, i chose to ignore your puerile gibes during our previous discussion, and now you've started with this "mrs. hermit" business. what has you thinking now that i'm a woman, or that i'm married? i made it quite clear earlier that my name is gender neutral -- it's just a bird! -- and i'm happy to keep it that way.

as to the substance of this post and its subsequent comments, i completely stand by my assertion that the post is outrageous. i even offered a brief argument in support of my assertion; if you disagree with me, then i'd invite you to do the same. so far, your support for iv's post seems to consist of labeling me a "kool-aid drinker".

i think clinton ran a disgraceful campaign in the democratic primary against obama. but i think you're mistaken to suggest that clinton's ridiculous lie about sniper fire in bosnia had anything to do with her loss -- at that point, obama had already amassed a virtually insurmountable lead in the delegate count.

you wrote, "it was that constant lying that was so hard for me to accept". can i presume that your contempt for sarah palin must be at least as great?

finally, who here said it's an "attack" to bring up hilary's promise to create 100,000 jobs in ny? i confess i don't know the details of what she said exactly (and am too lazy to research it right now), but that strikes me as a completely fair point to raise.

Anonymous said...

I would hope that all of you refrain from using the term "kool aid drinkers" due to its obvious racial overtones.

There is no place for that and it shouldn't be tolerated.

Anonymous said...

Oh Hermit. Lighten Up.
(No racial overtones implied)

You jump around so much I have no idea where to begin. I'm not a young man and fast thinkers like yourself tend to confuse me.

I, like you, get too lazy to go back and forth on things forever. I will say that most all of my disagreements with you have centered on sweeping statements you've made. This time, you have chosen to counter Mrs Clinton's sniper lie with a "Palin lies too" rant. Sorry Sir/Madam/whatever, but Palin, whatever your disagreement with her, has not built nearly the record of dishonesty that Clinton has. I'm honestly confounded why "cool aid drinkers" feel this knee jerk urge to puke up this stuff. The two have nothing in common, except maybe for that genitalia thing, or lack thereof, depending on point of view. Your point is meaningless. Much like your comment about the "right wing media". Now where did you learn this line? Please give us an example of what you are talking about. Media is pretty much controlled by people who think as you do. That's where the "whining" accusation comes in. Are you actually threatened by the small percentage of media that expresses conservative views? If you are, you're balance is questionable.

I don't have much problem with what you say, as I've heard most all of it before. The evening news pretty well covers the same ground. I just don't understand some of your sweeping statements, and the completely off-target responses you offer to specific questions.

Otherwise, I like you. Can you cook? Because I cannot determine gender, I can't figure out whether hitting on you is appropriate, let alone whether I'd have promise of success. Best wishes.

Anonymous said...

I thought cool aide drinking was primarily done by youth, oblivious to what racial classification they were covered under. I feel sooooo bad that all this time, there were recially inapproprite messaged included in my efforts to sell the stuff.

I guess I was REALLY bad when I open my watermelon juice stand, with fried chicken on Friday nights. I now feel so guilty.

Don't you have anything to do?

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