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Tuesday, August 11, 2009

Owens - Non-Party Superhero

Are the Democratic chairs in the 11 county Congressional district recognizing the Great One's fault lines and distancing themselves? As previously stated here; the NY-23 race will be much different then NY-20 when the Great One was still on his honeymoon.

The selection was Bill Owens, who is not a registered Democrat, as a matter of fact he is not registered in any political party is the first sign the Democrats are attempting to mask their candidates in the face of declining public opinion polls. The Democrats will have to issue a Wilson-Pakula out of party authorization in order for Owens to run on their line.

But, don't fear, the process was quite different from the GOP process which allowed all their committee people to be involved, while the Democrats only allowed their 11 county chairs to be involved and be told what to do by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Then again, they were sideswiped when Senator Aubertine abruptly backed out from the race so their selection "process" transformed.

The Plattsburgh non party superhero will have a difficult time getting traction in the Lewis, St. Lawrence, Jefferson and Oswego county areas, which includes the all critical 48th Senate district that is said to be the key to NY-23 holding approximately 50% of the votes. 

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24 comments:

Anonymous said...

They aren't trying to mask anything, they are not that smart. This is all a misunderstand they thought he was a Dem. Didn't realize he wasn't.

Anonymous said...

If this is an example of working outside of their partisan base, then I will give this guy a listen. This could be a very good thing.

Perro de Presa said...

¿Partido? ¡Nosotros no necesitamos no partido que apesta!

Anonymous said...

Ur just scared IV. Ur party was once again outwitted by the Dems who have nothing to loose. If Dede wins the seat will be ancient history anyway.

Dan Francis said...

IV - As a matter of fact, actually there were more than the the 11 country chairs involved as you state.

Each of the 11 chairs brought
several committee persons.

There were about 50 people in the room - I know, I was thre and I faced them and their hard questions. It was very well set up and organized. Very professional.

I was told later by a few that my presentation was the best and most concise and succinct (means the same thing, righ? LOL)...

I made the first cut, but not the final one and for the life of me, I can't figure out how they chose an INDY ... Bill is a nice guy and smart, but he is not a DEM, but now says he is.

This is not a pretty sign, in my view. I'm disappointed, but not angry or upset. I did my best, now I move on to other things (again), um...

~ dmf

Anonymous said...

Someone running for office that isn't a career politician or a member of any political party? This cannot be a bad thing - maybe it is the beginning of reform for our broken system!

I know Owens personally - he is an honorable guy who tells it like it it. If elected, he'll be a refreshing change.

Anonymous said...

Please, this is the Dems abandoning what they believe in. As Karl Rove would counsel, that is always a recipe for disaster.

Anonymous said...

I know Owens as well, there is nothing honorable about him. His shady past and lack of scruples will be exposed in short order. Oh, and people should not lose sight of the fact that not only is he not a Democrat, but his is not from the North Country either. He is a Brooklyn born and raised shark.

Anonymous said...

I don't know if he's some kind of shark or not, but if he is an independent as Danny says, more power to him. The next question is why. As Dan asks, why would the donkeys, partisan as all, pick someone who has the ability to think for himself? Must be Heneshee wasn't around for this one.

I give the Donkey party credit and will give the guy an honest look. Why not?

Anonymous said...

It's a bizarre pick, unless the Dems are trying to go more moderate than Dede.

DownStateOperative said...

"Must be Heneshee wasn't around for this one."

Bruno! Wake up. The man with the name you have trouble spelling was the guy who represented Jefferson County. He was around.

Read, Bruno, Read

You and Danny are speaking with the same tongue.

Anonymous said...

AJR should have ran, then when re-districting happens, she'll be out.

Dan Francis said...

Hey DownState: Don't put me in the class with anyone at this forum - especially those who take shitty potshots under the label of Anonymous ... I'm not one of them ...

My basic argument stands: Why would the DEMS pick a non-DEM for a DEM race?

Makes zero sense. Zero.

And, please no more, "He's an INDY, so he'll do good on his own two feet, yada, yada, yada, yap, yap horseshit, either. The guy was a GOPer before, now what cha' gonna say, eh - and he's still not a DEM/"

The DEMS shoulda picked a DEM period and one who openly said they would stand with President Obama and 70% of the public on serious and growing need for health care reform.

Owens does not - and he said so.

But watch him change his view just like Gillibrand did when the party guys get to him ... you know: cash for ideas and support?

It always happens that way. And, that's what I told the committees and that's why I was passed over - they don't like the raw truth.

Mark my words - wait, watch and learn.

~ dmf

Anonymous said...

Doesn't mean Henecrae had the final say in the decision, Wannabe. I can't imagine Shyawn picking an independent minded person. Ya gots to have a donkey for a dude like that.

Think DS, think.

Earthbob said...

Demographically speaking, it appears that the Democratic Chairs now qualify for the GOP MVP Award.

Anonymous said...

This is an idiotic choice. And why haven't they made this guy available to the media today? Is he finishing up prep on Democratic issues?

What a joke, talk about a slap in the face to party loyalists.

Anonymous said...

This is an idiotic choice. And why haven't they made this guy available to the media today? Is he finishing up prep on Democratic issues?

What a joke, talk about a slap in the face to party loyalists.

Anonymous said...

Bill Owens is a nice guy, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that we keep Fort Drum growing and the only candidate in this race who can do that is Dede Scozzafava.

She lives here, she knows our issues and she's a proven leader. That's enough for me, I am voting Dede to Congress.

Anonymous said...

It should have been you, Dan. We made a poor choice IMO.

Dan Francis said...

My analysis of this race, FYI.

Please read it carefully and don't jump to any conclusions beforehand.

23rd District Special Election

~ dmf

Anonymous said...

"A slap to party loyalists."

Come to think of it, that is exactly what we need. More slaps to party loyalists on BOTH sides of the aisle. That was a good idea, but I'm sure you meant it in another way, didn't you, 11:04.

Danny, get off your high horse. Since your campaign died you've been pouting.

Dan Francis said...

Some DEMS noted in various articles that they wanted Owens since he "had a moderate NOT progressive voice and view."

I guess that translates to mean:

"Stay in the middle and say you are in the middle, but [wink/wink] when you win, get in office, then govern from the left, just don't campaign that way - it don't look too good."

Then they cite this update on how to govern left (as the public demands, I guess)?

Gillibrand Wants More Free School Lunches

Now, how "moderate/middle" is that, um?

We are about to see the same old, same old... that is a given.

Change? Not in this lifetime. Yet, there will be those who pander and say, "That's not what we wanted or voted for..." (as they extend their hands).

~ dmf

Anonymous said...

No difference in the two major parties, this proves it, Dede is a RINO, plays both sides, I wouldn't doubt she switches to the Democrat side of the aisle down the road. Whose the "mystery" investor for Tom??

Anonymous said...

iv, lewis county is not in the 48th senate district. It is in the the 47th district (griffo's district).

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