"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have"
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Monday, October 20, 2008

Interesting Comparison

Pull out of Iraq?   Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
Body count: In the last six months:
292 killed (murdered) in Chicago;
221 killed in Iraq.
Chicago.... Who Runs it:
Senators:  Barack Obama & Dick Durbin
Rep:  Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Illinois Gov:  Rod Blogojevich,
Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,
Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J.Daley).....our leadership in Illinois.....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.
Of course, they're all blaming each other!

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look 'em up if you want).
Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.  And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us?


Anonymous said...

You left out the tens of thousands of dead Iraqi every year and the fact that without Billions of dollars in bribes to various violent fractions paid for with American tax dollars on credit, to try and give the illusion that the surge is working.

It please me to see, that the controlling spin doctors in this country are not creditable and even red state (real) Americans can't swallow there bullshit any more without gagging.

Anonymous said...

Now that is funny. Sad, but funny. I can't wait for the fun.

Anonymous said...

Are you now going to explain why the Republican conservative southern states have murder rates much higher than that seen in Northern states? Or is that Obama's fault too? You sir, are a ass.

Anonymous said...

Are you going to explain why JeffCo is a high crime area? It must have something to do with the JeffCo Board. It must be the fault of the Republicans. You can't find a Democrat there. Our city, Oswego is a low crime city. Explain that one and how it relates to David Renzi. Will Dave Renzi bring the high crime of Watertown to our fair city? Hell, he is even one of the statistics. You prove that Watertown is not a hot bed of education.

Anonymous said...

Lets count all murdered in Iraq, not just american troops. You counted all murdered in chicago.

hermit thrush said...

iv, is that correct that your numbers completely omit iraqi deaths? i haven't seen any hard numbers in a while, but i'd be extremely surprised if the numbers you cite include anything but u.s. and coalition deaths. at any rate, your posts would be a lot more credible if you actually linked to sources.

hermit thrush said...

"This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us?"

is that really an argument you want to make, iv? do you really want to compare to the republican political culture in washington that mccain comes from?

Dan Francis said...

You hit a nerve with me on that post - you posted in part:

Body count: In the last six months: 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago; 221 killed in Iraq.

The 221 killed in Iraq is NOT the same as someone being murdered in Chicago ... your analogy is pretty weak.

BTW: We had 118 soldiers killed in Iraq in the past 6 months - what do you call that?

Quite frankly your post is an insult to those 118 who have been killed in combat in the same 6 months you compare murder in Chicago and "killing" in Iraq.

You should pull that post and apologize.

FYI: We have lost 615 killed in Afghanistan and 140 this year alone - do you call that "Killed or Murder," I wonder?

~ dmf

Anonymous said...

Did PIV marry that hate poster son of sam's sister?
This post sounds like the kind of thing he would pick up on. Has he been talking to SOS's dog?

Political IV said...


This post was received by PIV via email.

Anonymous said...

SOS's dog has a computer, now?

Anonymous said...

Watch that "ass" thing, or you will be accused of showing hatred and racism. By the way, northern cities, like DC, lead the way with violent crime. So much for spin.

Anonymous said...

The only hate doggie has is for fleas. I will admit they are mostly black. But I think this is coincidental. Please, no racism intended, by the dog.


The above posting is intended as a joke. Anyone offended, related to someone offended, possibly offended, offended late at night, or reminded of bad times in their lives are strictly advised against a negative reaction to this rather basic and childish effort towards humor. In other words, sorry if it ticks you off. Note: The dog will cover the topic of Ticks at a later date.

Dan Francis said...

Q: How do you spell tapdancer?


Post was from an email and you posted it - you should have alerted your readers in advance ...

I'd recommend you put that email address under spam or trash!

~ dmf

SmallTownAmerica said...

According to icasualties.org (Iraq Coalition Casualty Count):

The number of Iraqi civilians killed since 2005 is 43572.


(disclaimer: This is not a complete list, nor can we verify these totals. This is simply a compilation of deaths reported by news agencies. Actual totals for Iraqi deaths are much higher than the numbers recorded on this site.)

Anonymous said...

"292 killed (murdered) in Chicago;
221 killed in Iraq."

None of these deaths matter to Republicans and the John McCain agenda, anyway. Why bother to even post this. Unless you see their lives as so insignificant that you are trying to justify this war by saying it is safer to be a soldier in Iraq than it is a gang member in Chicago. You are a twisted man. John McCain is from a culture that was dropping napalm on innocent villagers in Nam. It was a safe, easy ride for a good pilot. But he fail his mission and cost us more aircraft than the red barron. He receives 100 "F"ing per cent of disability and never paid for a suture in his life. We have guys coming back to the Drum from I and A with no legs who cant even get 50 per cent. They are hidden from the view of guys like you who might puke when they see them. What the hell makes John McCain so privileged? John McCain publicly protested the recent GI bill that brought us up to date. What the hell kind of culture did he come from? What the hell kind of culture do you come from that would make this a negative feature of a candidate? What branch of the service did you serve in PIV?

Anonymous said...

"The only hate doggie has is for fleas. I will admit they are mostly black. But I think this is coincidental. Please, no racism intended, by the dog."
You sir are ignorant and anyone in control of a blog like this who would pass it on to reader is even more ignorant.

Anonymous said...

"The only hate doggie has is for fleas. I will admit they are mostly black. But I think this is coincidental. Please, no racism intended, by the dog."

It is time for the JeffCo blog to remove this person from their posts. Enough is Enough. I only hope these posts are not coming from the blogging crew it'self. Otherwise why would it slip through when you are so religious at removing posts that confirm or question your identity. To paraphrase your own:
This is the political culture that David Renzi comes from in Watertown. And he's gonna "fix" North Country Politics for us?

hermit thrush said...


This post was received by PIV via email."

are you freaking kidding me? is that the standard around here? what a pathetic blog. and right now, as of 2:23 pm, after receiving several comments taking him/her to task, iv still hasn't shown the decency to go back and update the original post.

Anonymous said...

Anger control classes. Free. Look 'em up in the phone book.


Anonymous said...

Wow IV...you hit a nerve.....Democratic Control over most American large cities has gone hand in hand with high murder rates---that is a fact.

Anonymous said...

We got them right where we want them PIV.

Safer in Iraq than a democrat city.


Anonymous said...

I think we have a chicken and egg situation here. What came first the democrats or the high murder rates. I think most will agree that the high murder rates came first. About 50% of the murders are family/friend type. The other murders (the true crime related murders) are involving the lower socio economic class. Lower socio economic class people are found in the urban settings (ie big cities). MOst lower socio economic indivuals are democrats. They tend to support the welfare state policies as opposed to the republican policies that favor businesses (with the belief that they then benefit the needy by hiring them.) Those that do not believe this theory are ignoring why the democrats try to register the poor, the homeless and those that are the lower socio economic strata of our society.

This post is not meant to say some hard working Americans are democrats. But reality is reality.

Unlike most of the post under this heading, no hatred is intended.

hermit thrush said...

it's now well over 24 hours since iv made the original post; numerous commenters have pointed out that one of its central factual contentions is completely wrong; iv seems to have had time in the meanwhile to process other comments and write new posts; and yet s/he still doesn't have the decency to update the original post, on the main page. instead, all we get is a feeble "disclaimer" buried here in the comments where few, if any, will see it. with that kind of fidelity to the truth, why should anyone believe a single word that iv types? what separates this blog from a pure propaganda outlet?

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